THREE QUESTIONS: An Eighth Messenger? “I’ll ride this trail again?” and 1977?

SERMON NOTES “Three QuestionsT

QUESTION #1. Kindly assist on the Eight Messenger issue:  i believe the Eighth Messenger is the Lord Jesus Christ (Joshua) who just borrowed the body of Rev. William Branham (7th Church Age Messenger) in order to reveal the seals. – A doctrine has arisen that Bro Joseph Branham is the eight messenger. I believe Bro Joseph (just like you & me) is just extending the Bride Ministry started by the Holy Ghost/ Christ in Rev. William Branham. Others say claim themselves, but the most deceptive one is that of Bro. Joseph Branham as the eight messenger. Kindly assist straighten up!

BROTHER BRANHAM WAS THE SEVENTH MESSENGER, AND THE FINAL ONE.  A ANGEL MEANS A MESSENGER.  HEAVENLY/EARTHLY.  EVERY PREACHER IS A ANGEL MESSENGER.  SOME HAVE A GREATER CHARGE THAN OTHERS.  ORAL ROBERTS, T. L. OSBORNE, BILLY GRAHAM.  LOCALLY, SOME ARE CALLED TO BIGGER WORKS/SMALLER.  GOD JUDGES OUR WORK NOT BY BIGNESS, OUR RESULTS.

SOME HAVE A LASTING MINISTRY THAT EFFECTS PEOPLE;  SPURGEON, CALVIN, MOODY.  OTHERS HAVE A STRONGER EFFECT ON THE WORLD/AGE.  IT FURTHERS THE CHURCH.  APOSTLE PAUL, LUTHER, WESLEY.  WHERE WOULD THE WORLD BE WITHOUT THE MINISTRY OF LUTHER/WESLEY!

GOD USES MAN, EARTHLY ANGELS, NOT HEAVENLY ANGELS TO PREACH THE GOSPEL (CORNELUS).  EPHESIANS 4:11.  EVERYONE IN THE SOUND OF MY VOICE, WHETHER HERE OR BY INTERNET, THE BIBLE CHRISTIAN HAS ALLOWED MEN, TO HAVE A BIG PART IN THEIR SPIRITUAL GROWTH.  YOU HAVE A PASTOR.  LONERS DON’T MAKE IT!

SO IT IS NOT UNUSUAL THAT GOD USES MEN, AND A CERTAIN NUMBER IN A MORE IMPORTANT WAY TO GUIDE THE CHURCH?

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS

IN THE OLD TESTAMENT THERE WAS MOSES, DAVID.  THE MAJOR PROPHETS, ISAIAH, JEREMIAH.  2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost .

2 Tim 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

PREACH/PREACHER – NT:2784 kerusso (kay-roos’-so); to herald (as a public crier), especially divine truth (the gospel):

GOD USED THE NUMBER SEVEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH. 

SPEAKING OF THE CHURCH AND MEN SENT TO THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH.

Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write;  

WE ARE DISPENSATIONALIST – SEVEN OF THEM TO THE CHURCH.

SEVEN IS THE NUMBER OF COMPLETION – 6 DAYS IN CREATION, RESTED THE SEVENTH.  UNDER THE LAW THEY RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY.  IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WE HAVE ENTERED INTO ANOTHER SABBATH, NOT A DAY, BUT THE HOLY GHOST.  Heb 4:9-

THERE IS A SEVENTH AND LAST CHURCH AGE – Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write;  AN ANGEL TO THAT CHURCH.

THE SAME IS THE SEVENTH ANGEL OF – Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

THE SEVENTH ANGEL IDENTIFIED THE CHURCH AGES, AND THE MESSENGERS, BY INSPIRATION.  MADE KNOWN THE MYSTERIES ACCORDING TO – Matt 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.  

THE APOSTLE PAUL WOULD BE THE “KEY” TO WHO THE SEVEN MESSENGERS WOULD BE.  PAUL WAS A PROPHET, AND THE LAODICEA ANGEL WOULD BE A PROPHET IN THE SPIRIT OF ELIJAH THAT COMES FIVE TIME; 1) ELIJAH, 2) ELISHA, 3) JOHN, 4) MAL 4, A RESTORATION PROPHET,   5) ELIJAH TO THE JEWS IN Rev 11.

THIS RESTORATION PROPHET SPOKE OF BY JESUS IN – Matt 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.  JUST AS ELIJAH DID IN 1 Kings 18:37 …turned their heart back again. 

Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

SEVEN – WHERE DOES EIGHT FIT INTO THE SEVEN?  THE PUZZLE DON’T FIT!  UNLESS… YOU FORCE IT!

BRO. BRANHAM DID SPEAK OF AN EIGHTH DAY, AS ETERNITY, AND THAT IS NOT A PERSON.  SIX DAYS WE LABOR AGAINST SIN, SEVENTH DAY MILLENNIAL REST.  THE EIGHTH DAY WILL BE AN END OF “TIME” AND ETERNITY ON THE EARTH.  OUR EDEN ON THE EARTH AGAIN.  

WHICH, YES WE HAVE ENTERED INTO BY THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY GHOST, WAITING FOR THAT TIME OF COMPLETE REDEMPTION.

HE SPEAKS OF THIS IN THE SERMON; THE FUTURE HOME OF THE HEAVENLY BRIDEGROOM AND THE EARTHLY BRIDE – HIS TEXT; Lev 23:36 Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein.

WHAT DID BRO. WILLIAM BRANHAM SAY?

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Remember, here not long ago, I was teaching you on the Seven Trumpets, the feast of trumpets, and so forth. And I said, “There is a eighth-day festival.” So, the seventh day would be the last, that would be the Millennium. But there is an eighth-day festival; which, if it was the eighth, and there’s only seven days, would make it the first day again, come right back to the first day. Then, after the Millennium is over, then there will be an established Eden again. God’s great Kingdom will be taken back.

REVELATION.CHAPTER.FIVE.2_  JEFF.IN  ROJC   61-0618

What is those seven Spirits? Them seven messengers. There’s Saint Columba, and Irenaeus, and–and John Wesley, and Martin Luther, and so forth. See, the seven Spirits, which are seven men, seven angels, which are seven messages.

Seven seals, seven Spirits, seven Angels, seven horns, and seven churches (See?), seven sevens; there’s five sevens, which “seven” is “perfection”; “five” is “grace,” God’s grace to His Seven Church Ages, His seven messenger men–men, His seven Spirits of God, the seven planned seals of redemption (we’re in right now), the seven horns means seven ages.

CHURCH AGE BOOK – Rev 1:11 “What thou seest, write in a book, and send it to the seven churches.”

 The voice that sounded forth His Word in the Garden of Eden and upon Mount Sinai, which voice was also heard in the excellent glory of the Mount of Transfiguration, was once again sounding forth, and this time to the seven churches with a complete and final revelation of Jesus Christ.

CHURCH AGE BOOK – THE LAST WARNING OF THE SPIRIT

Revelation 3:22, “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”

LAODICEAN.CHURCH.AGE  –  CHURCH.AGE.BOOK CPT.9

This is the LAST warning. There will not be another. The throne room has been set up. The twelve foundations have been laid. The streets of gold have been paved. The gates of gigantic pearls are raised and hinged. Like a pyramid she stands so fair and glorious. The heavenly beings who have prepared her watch breathlessly, for she glistens and shines with a glory that is unearthly. Every facet of her beauty tells a story of amazing grace and Jesus’ love. She is a city prepared for a prepared people. She awaits only for her inhabitants, and soon they will throng her streets with joy. Yes, it is the last call. The Spirit will not speak in another age. The ages are over.

But thank God, at this moment, this age is not over. He is yet crying. And His cry is not only in the spiritual ears of men by His Spirit, but once again a prophet is in the land. Once more God will reveal the truth as He did to Paul. In the days of the seventh messenger, in the days of the Laodicean Age, its messenger will reveal the mysteries of God as revealed to Paul. He will speak out, and those who receive that prophet in his own name will receive the beneficent effect of that prophet’s ministry. And they that hear him will be blessed and become part of that bride of the last day who are mentioned in Revelation 22:17,“The Spirit and the bride say come.”

 The corn of wheat (the Bride Wheat) that fell into the ground at Nicaea has come back to original Word Grain again. Praise God forever. Yes, listen to the authenticated prophet of God who appears in this last age. What he says from God, the bride will say. The Spirit and the prophet and the bride will be saying the same thing. And what they will say will have already been said in the Word. They are saying it now, “Come out from among her now and be ye separate.” The cry has gone out. The cry is going out. How long will the voice cry? We do not know, but one thing we do know, it won’t be long, for this is the last age.

  • QUESTION #2 Kindly expound Bro. Branham: “I will ride this trail again”?

I’LL RIDE THIS TRAIL AGAIN OR ONCE MORE – Bro. BRANHAM – 5 TIMES SAID THIS IN 1965

PEOPLE HAVE USED IT SINCE THE BEGINNING TO MEAN, THAT HE WILL RETURN WITH A MESSAGE.  HE NEVER TAUGHT IT!

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182    Now, I don’t want to hurt you. And this is not a joke, this is THUS SAITH THE LORD from the Scriptures. It’s exactly true, friend. I’m an old man, I haven’t got much longer to stay, but I’ve got to tell you the Truth. If this is my last message, it’s the Truth. See? Don’t, sister. Don’t, brother.

WHAT.IS.THE.ATTRACTION.ON.THE.MOUNTAIN_  JEFF.IN   65-0725E

  148      What’s happened upon Mount Sunset? God confirming His Word. That’s what all this noise is about. Notice, it’s God fulfilling His promised Word again, of Revelations 10:1 to 7, “And in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel’s Message, the mystery of God should be finished.” The hidden mystery of Revelations 10:1 to 7, the last Message to the last church age. Fulfills exactly, in this age, Saint Luke 17:30, “The day when the Son of man shall be revealed.”

149    “And there shall rise false prophets and false Christs, show great signs and wonders, insomuch it’d deceive the Elected if possible.” The people still in doubt. And, as usual, the church is just as puzzled.

SARDISEAN.CHURCH.AGE  –  CHURCH.AGE.BOOK CPT.7

But He has placed a special leadership in these men of His own choosing and through the determined counsel of His own will. They appear once in each age.

WHAT ABOUT THE TENT, WHAT ABOUT THE VISIONS?

DAVID IN THE PSALMS PROPHETICALLY SPEAKING OF HIMSELF OR CHRIST – Ps 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet . 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

PROPHETS AT TIMES DON’T UNDERSTAND THEIR PROPHECIES.

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Now, Joseph saw it by his own life. He seen that he was born a peculiar boy, that he was a seer. There was something about him; he could see visions. He couldn’t understand it. He even went and seen… Told his mother and father, when they tried to correct him, when he seen the sheaves all bowing to his. He couldn’t understand it. But then, next thing, he found out that he was betrayed by his brethren. He said, “What am I portraying here? What is this foreknowledge that I’m receiving?” He watched his own life.

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And so, therefore, he said, “A virgin shall conceive.” He probably could not understand it, but God had spoke it through him. Because, He promised that, “He would do nothing until He revealed It to His servants the prophets.” Then, when he said that, it was eight hundred years before that ever come to pass. But it had to come to pass.

Finally, those Words of God anchored in the womb of a virgin, and she conceived and brought forth Emmanuel.

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  E-12    So Joseph said, “Well, my dear, would–would you go in and get one of the scrolls.” She just by chance reached in to get the scroll and brought it out.

She said, “Well, dear, today it seems like we read from the book of Isaiah.”

So he pulled open the scroll, and Joseph begin to read, and his mind… his eyes fell upon this portion: “A virgin shall conceive, and shall bring forth a Son… They shall call His name Counselor, mighty God, Prince of Peace, everlasting Father.”

And when he got down to the end, the little virgin lady setting by the side, said, “Just a moment, Joseph, dear. What does the prophet mean by a virgin conceiving?”

Well, Joseph might have said this: “Dear, that’s just a little too deep for me. I do not understand it, but I believe it. It’s just what the Bible said. I don’t know how it will ever happen, but we know this, dear, we know that Isaiah was Jehovah’s prophet. Therefore, being anointed with the Holy Spirit of God upon him, he could not prophesy wrong, because he was borned a prophet and we know that his words are true. And when he said, ‘A virgin shall conceive, ‘ that was not Isaiah, that was our Jehovah, and Jehovah is able to do anything that He says that He will do.”

  • QUESTION #3 Kindly assist on the issue of 1977- Christ Coming. I believe myself and even teach that indeed Jesus Christ came in the form of the Holy Ghost in 1963 on Mt. Sunset (Pillar of Cloud) to reveal the seals and establish His presence for the purposes of Invisible Union with His Bride and then Rapture. Any other view?

JESUS CAME IN THE FORM OF THE HOLY GHOST AT THE DAY OF PENTECOST.  MOUNT SUNSET, REVEALED THE SEALS AND ESTABLISHED HIS PRESENCE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE INVISIBLE UNION OF THE BRIDE AND THEN THE RAPTURE.

TIMES AND DATES – 1977 WAS A PREDICTION OF THE COMING OF THE LORD AND USURING IN OF THE MILLENNIUM.  A STRONG PRODUCTION – BUT NOT A PROPHESY.  WE BELIEVE A PROPHET, WE PUT GREAT FAITH IN STATEMENTS LIKE THAT.  1963 WAS AN IMPORTANT DATE, BUT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OR WE WILL DO AWAY WITH MERCY.

I COULD SAY, I BELIEVE THE COMING OF THE LORD WILL TAKE PLACE ON MY BIRTHDAY.  NOT PROPHESY, JUST BELIEVE IT.  BUT EVEN THAT WILL CAUSE GREAT DAMAGE. 

SO WHY DID BRO. BRANHAM EMPHASIS 1977?  I DARE NOT CONJECTURE.  DID SOMETHING HAPPEN?  PROBABLE, BUT WHAT, IT WOULD JUST BE SPECULATION

Titus 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. 9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

GOOD WORKS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN, UNPROFITABLE SPECULATIONS ABOUT DATES AND TIMES.

Pastor Bill Ivy – Sermon notes – Titled: “Three Questions” preached 3/3/2019 – www.livingwordtabernacle.com